The disturbance of 996.ICU has not ended, the cry of little elder brother of Hangzhou retrograde motion still is in resound, "Zhejiang plans to use the tie that sign a letter to find new job often " the message aroused 1000 billow on the net again.
The netizen leaves a message:
@ small handsome: Some companies are mixed in interview to apply for a job person true condition of saying condition and welfare and company is different, created bilateral information asymmetry, to apply for a job person discover the problem can leave his post after period of time going to work. Does the person that does this kind of circumstance also want to apply for a job carry boiler on the back?
@ little room: Offer this proposal most probably oneself had not sought the job
@ from beginning to end from beginning to end: I support more will default salary, ill will to cut down the member of persons employed, go bankrupt at will, sincere letter is short of the business that lose to bring into somewhat sign a letter, after all such business presence is more!
Below @ A: What is the definition that finds new job often? Beg the government to give an exact definition!
About whether supporting " plan to use the tie that sign a letter to find new job often " voting result shows, the person support that also only 12% is control finds new job often bring into an individual to impose letter system, the person of 87% holds crosscurrent.
Office of Zhejiang person company: Leave his post normally won't affect individual credence
Find new job often with the tie that sign a letter? Xiang Na of office of company of Zhejiang province person the reporter expresses, the original intention of this word is not to say to find new job to be able to affect individual credence to divide, however ill will finds new job often to wait for behavior or suffer an effect. If future wants make relevant detailed rules, will listen to each opinion, the interest of enterprise of give attention to two or morethings and individual.
Be aimed at afore-mentioned incident, office of company of Zhejiang province person is relevant Xiang Na of chief Tong Weihong the reporter is reductive the scene at that time.
Office of company of Zhejiang province person is begun in Ning Bo " 12333 whole nations unite advisory day " when the activity, held a small-sized informal discussion at the same time, listen to the problem that chief feedback exists related the enterprise. The spot has inquiry of directors of two resource of company labor power how to solve the difficult problem that use worker worker, say the enterprise has plan of his choose and employ persons, normally need is paid very big cost is hired and develop a person with ability, but the worry that often encounters employee to find new job often.
Tong Weihong expresses, the talent is an enterprise live this, but the one big pain spot that employee does not have foreword prediction of a person's luck in a given year often also is an enterprise really, make known his position to will strengthen research of system of person company credit at that time so, break one's promise enterprise and ill will find new job the problem is brought into among them.
"In fact, of employee leave his post normally and won't affect individual credence to divide, however it is those frequent ill will, normal to exceed honor the agreement of the category find new job behavior or suffer an effect, " Tong Weihong tells south reporter, "At present this job is in research, we also perfect farther iteration communal credence evaluation, join real case, optimize assessment technique, raise evaluation area graduation and objectivity. If future wants make relevant detailed rules, we affirm can special reason, in-depth survey listens to each opinion, consider multiple issue, with the interest of enterprise of give attention to two or morethings and individual. With the interest of enterprise of give attention to two or morethings and individual..
South the reporter combs public data discovery, "Duty field touchs porcelain " behavior abounds in really.
" the Workers'Daily " ever reported, according to not complete count, 20 years when come on stage in labor law, the labor dispute case that countrywide court hears goes to many 30 from many 30 thousand original development. Among them, the frequency that medium and small businesses is labor dispute sends the ground, also become " duty field touchs porcelain " the biggest fall victim group.
Somebody traded 11 companies, to lodge a complaint 8, after resigning every time, ask former " a form of address formally used by an employee to his employer or a tenant-peasant to his landlord " pay overwork salary; Still somebody changed nearly 20 jobs inside two years, early or late shape accuses 15 companies to disobey labor law to use labour provision, by the coronal with " person of right of dimension of profession of the type that touch porcelain " title. To get pair of times salary find an excuse protracted signing the written labor contract, fraudulent action in asking sick leave is " touch porcelain " customary maneuver.
Expert: Cannot " one knife is cut " , analyse of part of one's job finds new job reason
2016, print and distribute of general office of the State Council " the directive opinion that about strengthening an individual sincere letter system builds " , let person of be as good as one's word enjoy advantage, break one's promise person " can not move a step " the general orientation that becomes credit processing, the individual that each places also begin to feel rigging to have local distinguishing feature sincere letter system. So, find new job often to be contacted together with individual credence reasonable?
"How should limit above all ' frequent ' ? Change one year work how many times calculate frequent? " legislation of credit of capital Normal University and credence evaluate Shi Xinzhong of research center director to think, use merely " find new job often " come to those who generalize employee leave one's post behavior " not quite rigorous " , the reason that should further analysis finds new job -- the baleful behavior that is employee, be still the condition that the enterprise does not have add reality to had talked now? Cannot " one knife is cut " , simple find new job often be equal at breaking one's promise behavior.
Shi Xinzhong points out, generally speaking, the meeting when employee enters office signs labor contract with the enterprise, agree to grow when agreement, can have the effect that is on guard to the risk. "Employee grooms need cost investment, just groomed had not done contribution to go to the enterprise person, affirmative meeting causes a loss to the enterprise " .
He says, the enterprise can be stated in the contract groom how long, condition of much kick one's heels should work in the unit at least after grooming. If employee signed a contract however break a contact finds new job, delimit break one's promise behavior does not have a problem.
Occupy Shi Xinzhong to understand, in some countries, of employee break one's promise behavior can be typed relevant intermediary orgnaization, when the enterprise does setting to investigate, if discover employee before this find new job often, and it is to just groom leave his post, can serve as these records whether employ the reference of this employee.
Yu Qingquan: Begin me to think this is a jest
About this problem, also somebody is in know went up to undertake quizing to CEO of 51 social security Mr. Yu Qingquan.
More than teacher solves as follows:
Beginning me to think is a jest, discover this is a very serious social policy problem after research.
"Find new job with the tie that sign a letter " it is to use apparently slanted, this is the mouth below condition of individual person words by accident, still say problem of general orientation sex, be worth to think. In fact, system of person company credit is national problem, is not Zhejiang is saved. Manpower resource and social security ministry had begun to turning credit system two years ago. Everybody is necessary whole understands:
1, about " Internet + person company acts " credit evaluates capability
2016, manpower resource and social security ministry are released " " company of Internet ＋ person " 2020 actions plan " (2016 〕 of 〔 of hair of person company department 105) , "Company of Internet ＋ person " 2020 actions plan serves innovation and social cooperation to develop 3 actions to plan to comprise by fundamental capability promotion, management, include 48 actions theme in all. Among them, promotion of capability of the first base puts forward clearly:
4. credence evaluates capability. Construction whole nation's unified manpower resource and platform of information of social security credit, income of relationship of talent of insurance of obtain employment of conformity putting in collect 's charge, society, human affairs, working, wage allocates the credit that waits for a respect information, implementation crosses a region, cross business to be built in all share common. Build credit information to evaluate model and standard integratedly, to of all kinds service object be as good as one's word breaks his promise behavior undertakes an analysis, compose is built " system of person company credit " , evaluate the industry credit situation of unit of choose and employ persons and individual objectively, as comprehensive as national credit system butt joint, each other of implementation credit information is connected, evaluate regular each other to admit.
2, about " person company credit evaluates a system "
105 civilization put forward compose to build truly " system of person company credit " , what content does this system contain after all? Specific how of be born?
Made clear here " system of person company credit " when:
3, how should define evaluation of person company credit after all?
Any building that the model is the statistical method with be based on regular and fundamental hypothesis.
"Obtain employment and ginseng keep credit of company of stability = person " this hypothesis still needs to discuss, and from this the person company credit that model inference comes out evaluates individual credence integratedly to give a mark: "Cent cost is higher, the stability that shows individual obtain employment and ginseng are protected is stronger, in person company the credit rate of relevant domain also has been jumped over accordingly. " also be worth deliberate.
"Credit " is to be able to conform a kind of reputation that fulfil commitment and brings constitutionally. This kind of credit can promote a person between, between the unit, commodity trades of the bilateral voluntarily between interact repeatedly. -- that is to say, credit originates honor the agreement, promote more to reach past agreement repeatedly.
Trade, before good trade pay behavior to be able to make reputation, OK even tick is follow-up pay inside conventional period;
On association, before the behavior of honest be as good as one's word can make reputation, others can be at ease loan.
And, honor the agreement the time is more, amount is larger, credit is better. Do not believe you to see yourself and you the cent of sesame seed credence of female basin friend, it is likely " buy buy buy " the woman student is higher... Ma Yun's father most understand " credit " substaintial.
But, arrived on person company credit, this kind with " obtain employment and ginseng maintain stability " assume as person company credit with respect to paradox: Cannot pass already honor the agreement the number will measure, also cannot promote sequel to relapse agreement.
A, if stable obtain employment is credit, so best credence does not find new job all one's life namely, of the no use that this kind of credence is lay aside and neglect praise, because also do not have unit leaving the home to have opportunity service you;
B, on the contrary, if this kind of credence divides a value to represent obtain employment and ginseng higher to maintain stability,jump over strong, then next domestic units look the discretion that assign a value to dig a person; You are destroying that home unit namely his person company credit, destroyed obtain employment and ginseng to maintain stability... is you say this chamfer to still do not jump?
The place on put together is narrated, person company credit can consult obtain employment and ginseng keep data, but ought not to use for certain " obtain employment and ginseng maintain stability " as the main basis that build a model. And, if farther find new job (or is " find new job often " ) the definition is break one's promise behavior, quantify very hard on one hand, on the other hand so qualitative and apparent broaden the scope or simple and crude.
4, proposal
Below the big setting that builds comprehensive credence society in our country, system of credit of all trades and professions is in high speed to develop period. Meanwhile, the amount is huge " break one's promise " the problem also is in be paid close attention to.
According to China executive information makes public a net, end on April 6, 2019, china is announced break his promise to be carried out person list 13.54 million. Where is what concept? China has 1.3 billion person, every 100 people break his promise to be carried out with respect to what 1 is announced person, every 65 people have a plane that be taken by limitation...
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Credit is issue of policy of a society, have its complexity. A few small proposals:
