[is national ability " buy " must come back? -- discuss about carrying of 10 think]

[is national ability " buy " must come back? -- discuss about carrying of 10 think]

We are general look upon a thing, can see oneself are familiar only with the circumstance inside a certain limits, reach some is planted at this point next conclusion. This is very normal, so, we need to have the person of research truly to a certain domain, the orgnaization of real to a certain incident knowledge studies to what this undertakes, the conclusion that reachs next, the be convinced on the can oldest rate accepts everybody.

However, when some authority, some orgnaizations, the self that is oneself or interest blur of purpose alter a fact, do not wish to face up to a problem, dress up factual misrepresentation daub conciously the appearance that is helpful for themselves, have the aid of is strong at the same time when transmission orgnaization is a flourish of trumpets, the brain of people is met by agitate muddleheaded ~

Y10 topic discusses now, had appeared a lot of branch topics, this enough shows this item and just do not involve a plane just.

I see those who the friend mentions horological industry catenary decompose today with engineering capability, mention homebred and horological profession did not develop before 2000, after introducing product line in great quantities, now actually also not up to much (horological industry I am layman, do not understand ha, but I look to have to give this verdict) . So, I want to ask, have a person to had thought those who come out to in what make end product finally those are decomposed most are foundation and slight practical research gain how come?

The scientific research system that what involve actually here is our country is relevant problem. Research divides background science and technology, inside this all the time does the chasm since have how old? What do we rely on to combine them together? To today we still are crying produce learn to grind union, because produce,grind two pieces of skins are the main factor that perplexes our estate development, how be united in wedlock?

Aviation is a special case actually, this domain is with very clear industry target area grinds, with mix research the most effectively with the means of intensive the conformity with manufacturing effective chain rises.

In the meantime, are these research a perpendicular chain only merely? Not, they still are a complex reseau system.

E.g. , the research that the material in priority discipline of a country learns, can brought profit stay in this project merely?

In this discussion, a friend said individual meeting: I check and accept new product to the plant of form a complete set that produces brake. Old standard is to lose 30 ° , new standard is to lose 45 ° . As a result sample of 6 sampling observation loses 30 ° complete eligibility, lose 50 ° to have 3 flat be no longer in force, decide whole batch unqualified. Final analysis is balata closes nevertheless, the rubber factory of requirement form a complete set improves craft and recipe. All qualification experiments again after half an year. So rubber factory new product still can use other field.

I most begin even if from agriculture machinery material lag behind into what enter this topic. Machining ability decided the research and development of material and productivity greatly, it is the industrial project of Y10 form a complete set at that time, break through a purpose with respect to what have this side. Want to understand actually now of domain of agriculture machinery material lag behind to play the significance between Ma Zhi with the project, can understand us reaction of a lot of production industries carries current situation of person of be enslaved to be enslaved to in the market its are mid assign an account, for instance horological.

I lift our person to go to the United States stealing seminal example all the time, explain core technology is bought on one hand do not come, also explain on one hand, the industry with an independent a few smaller even company, become independent to undertake throwing to fundamental sex research and development without ability, and fundamental research and development is the necessary support that is terminal application.

[is national ability " buy " must come back? -- discuss about carrying of 10 think]

The complexity of this system and chain grow, final reaction is carried in the market, obtain that node of advantage, average person cannot have seen that original and inchoative research is how to come ~ ~ ~

Resemble having the respecting when the friend is discussing: What we object is the catenary of one whole industry that is the oldest product with Y10 is complete abandon, and " do not introduce cannot research and development " train of thought. Especially the discontinue of 50 thousand tons of big press, cause part of core of gas turbine of military plan engine, nuclear power plant, for military use directly... research and development is long-term backwater, know to should be designed how, but do not do. For instance the core component of eddy fan, without big press, that material is known perfectly well is what do not have a law to had been machined namely.

A lot of people in the controversy by Y10 confine of this type code name lived. It is that industry catenary only in one provides representative product most. Y10 steps down all the time, the meeting that perhaps appears is completely different aircraft. Perhaps finally is an early-warning plane platform, namely cheer machine platform. But the industry that it can drive upgrades too big, the able-bodied person that can draw, advanced labour force is too large. Of negative now Y10, basically regard it as single product sees a terminal.

Standard of our base industry returns 90 time rot so that force, follow old beauty to cry " mechanical, chemical industry is industry of the setting sun " . Wanted to understand now, begin dilate, but the problem of sex of a lot of foundation has not been solved, perhaps solve rise difficulty and block are too large.

The friend says, the great progress of old beauty, it is a war actually -- the country invests -- the technology yields -- the result of company application.

Yes, doing not have any policy is the thing of single field, it is politics, economy, market, scientific research is waited a moment each other is depend on sb or sth for existence between the domain, the complex system of mutual also influence. Of consideration of decision-making target place and basis cannot be single way only, same what it affects also won't be a plane only!

Self-made these simple truths need not say more again, "Buy " the thinking that gives a power, be proved to won't do by the bitter cost of very much now territory!

We say, a country is right powerful, not be the ability that covers an error, correct wrong ability however.

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