Summary: 60 hind, 70 hind. The person that two tycoons of electric business domain steer a boat is current to " go staying " manner far apart, today, ma Yun " do not want to stay " , liu Jiang east " do not think " .
Author | Dong Jie edits | Set one's mind at
Business of Chinese Internet cable of the person that two big tycoons steer a boat go leaving a problem to cause global attention.
Past a week, because Liu is strong east the scandal of the near future, beijing east share price drops greatly, be anxious correspondingly to it is Liu Jiangdonghui won't put in prison, and can leave capital east.
Late on September 7, the report that media is about to retire about Ma Yun also begins to encircle scamper boiler in media, suffer this to affect the share price in A dish hind drop 2.32% .
To whether leaving, ma Yun and Liu are at present strong east having disparate mood and attitude.
Beijing east emphasize publicly external for many times, scandal won't affect Liu Jiang the regular job east, and he also won't leave capital east. Ma Yun is interviewed in media in calm share emeritus plan, to the emeritus rumor that media reports, the government in A also was not denied directly.
60 hind, 70 hind. The person that two tycoons of electric business domain steer a boat is current to " go staying " manner far apart, today, ma Yun " do not want to stay " , liu Jiang east " do not think " .
1, " do not want to stay " Ma Yun
On September 7 evening, american commerce media " commercial inside " took the lead in reporting " Ma Yun is about to retire " message. On September 8 in the morning, new York Times, Peng Bo follows the media such as Forbes in succession follow-up.
New York Times says in the report " Ma Yun will be in next week one demit holds the post of Alibaba trustee bureau chairman, but will still in Alibaba the board of directors holds the position of a post, continue to coach the management of the company. Continue to coach the management of the company..
This report still says, "Zhou Yi " it is Ma Yun 54 years old birthday, and Ma Yun was on September 10 stranger, namely next week one. (Mr. Ma Turns 54 On Monday, which Is Also A Holiday In China Known As Teacher ' S Day. )
To this, group response weighs Alibaba: "No matter be,still be in in social commonweal Alibaba, ma Yun is becoming a teacher every day, also dreaming to become a teacher again every day, this is a think of a way that does not live normally again him to. This is a think of a way that does not live normally again him to..
Although both neither admits, also do not deny, the meaning outside Dan Yan, the company is remittent the preparation that has made Ma Yun retire it seems that, although Ma Yun is choosing to leave Alibaba next, also won't let a company surprised.
To oneself emeritus hearsay, ma Yun appears very indifferently.
When the near future accepts new York Times to interview Ma Yun expresses, my the end that retiring is not a times, however the beginning of a times. My general costs future more time and financial capacity are dedicated at education, "I like education " , ma Yun says.
According to Ma Yun's tentative idea, oneself still can be returned finally when the teacher this group, do a teacher to be able to let him handy most.
Treasure is cleaned out 10 years in what Huang Long sports center held 2013 on celebration, an abdication of type of equestrian Yun Zheng from the CEO in A, share specific work no longer, hand in CEO the club to give Liu Zhaoxi and hold hand over a ceremony, subsequently You Zhangyong replace. In Ma Yun demit holds the post of a few years, about its emeritus hearsay is done not have all the time discontinuous over- .
Last year on the opening celebration of lakefront university, be aimed at oneself emeritus hearsay, ma Yun expresses " oneself had planned company shift system, if oneself leave Alibaba now, the company won't appear too big question, but the specific timetable that has not retired now. But the specific timetable that has not retired now..
2014, ma Yun became his foundation, dedicated education, each years in after this him the supportive project that deepness participates in rustic teacher, build cloud cereal school to try new generation to teach way in Hangzhou, in addition he still establishs lakefront university, the poineering elite that is Xin Jin ceaselessly will impart oneself commercial philosophy.
Ma Yun says, oneself placed oneself to be able to go back 2005 1995 become a teacher, but did not think of, "Was in with the competition of EBay 2005 fervent condition, it is irresponsible that that moment goes back, want to pass a few years again then. " and now is Ma Yun's emeritus good time it seems that.
2, " do not think " Liu Jiang east
Here Ma Yun " do not want to stay " , the Liu Jiang that across trouble pesters a body east however and " do not think " .
Because of scandal, these days Liu Jiang east the Beijing with him east stood where the wind and the waves are highest, share price drops again.
Late on August 31 local time, because be suspected of " the sexual behavior that makes crime " Liu strong Dong Zaiming Ni Suda city is arrested, be released subsequently. Although still do not have exact result up to now about its truth, but in light of the feedback from American police, liu Jiang the foreground east appears and not Anacreontic.
Liu is at present strong east be to make by police suspicion " one class forcible rape " , if the result comes true, press the law of locality of lighting administrative division, liu strong the east faces will be " should sentence 144 months the least (12 years) , the term of imprisonment that first offence may be sentenced to punish is 144 months to 172 months " punish again.
For quite a long time, beijing east the impression that gives a person is to do not have " 2 handle " , and Liu Jiang east once desertioned because of scandal Beijing the administrative power east, to Beijing east will tell is major blow undoubtedly.
"Lost Liu Jiang east, replace him to manage Beijing east who can you be? " , this was become these days the central issue that media discusses centrally.
Opposite Yu Mayun is early handed over CEO powers and authorities of office 2013, have a hand in specific administrative general affairs no longer, now nowadays Beijing east the position of the CEO of the group still by Liu Jiang east oneself will hold the position of.
2016 Shen Haoyu leaves his post Beijing east after store CEO, this one position is vacant all the time, before before long Beijing east the store begins to implement spell CEO system, but fixed CEO person selected still was not found.
Actually in recent years, liu Jiang east also be in endeavor to try " go to a center changing " , put power gradually.
Began 2011, liu Jiang Dongliu add introduces Long Yu of La Ye of COO Shen Haoyu, CMO, CHO to wait for handler of one numerous profession. Subsequently, he is very few again " take care of everything oneself " . But even if is such, want to leave company management actively, still be very bad thing, he still everyday at 8 o'clock 30 punctual go to a company, chair early meeting.
Now Liu is strong nowadays east majority time still can share capital the general affairs of a gleam of east, meet even Zhou Zhou attends a meeting early with Technical Division.
At present Beijing east it is absolutely cannot leave Liu Jiang east, the every act east is affecting Liu Jiang deeply also Beijing east.
"Liu Jiang east will continue to head a firm, this incident did not affect Beijing the day-to-day operation east. To the lawyer calls together partner preparation initiates collective lawsuit, beijing east the response says, had not gotten suit at present, if have, will argue strongly. Will argue strongly..
Actually, after scandal goes 48 hours, liu Jiang east had shown body capital east headquarters, shared capital east with flexibly the autograph of the group cooperates about. And report according to media, these days the job east arranges Liu Jiang also all as usual, did not get it seems that the interference of scandal disturbance.
Strong like Liu east accepting American CNBC when interviewing, say in that way, "Oneself very the status that enjoys oneself to work hard, spend the time on the job on average to amount to 16 hours everyday, lie on the beach to bask it is very painful to can let me feel. Lie on the beach to bask it is very painful to can let me feel..
This year January, the Liu Jiang that appears on Dawosi first east with have " the king that PE invests " round author defends the Kaileiji of the title greatly · of Lubinsitan.
"When I hope I am one day emeritus, my employee can say ' he is a good person ' . " nevertheless, liu Jiang east also say frankly, oneself are 65 years old before should won't retire.
3, there can be Ma Yun in A, beijing east cannot do not have Liu Jiang east
Ma Yun can communicate him to the outside ceaselessly " emeritus " intent, because there are perfect management system and talent output to ensure in A,be. And to Beijing east for, liu Jiang east it is exclusive, once Liu is strong east leave, beijing east whole decision-making likelihood is about backwater.
The copartner system in A is Alibaba top authority center, this can ensure without the horse the cloud also can undertake to company strategy great and decision-making. Nowadays 70 hind already became A in be in charge of firm rock in midstream high, 80 hind cut a figure, appeared to clean out treasure to hold dish of hand Jiang to altogether such young battle will.
According to the constitution of system of the copartner in A, the oneself age of copartner and the summation of addition of fixed number of year that in the Babaji in A the group works are equal to or exceed 60 years old, can apply for to retire and continue to hold the position of Alibaba honorary copartner.
If from 1998 Ma Yun establishs,calculate in A case, to now 21 years, ma Yun present age is 54 years old, add up had had 75 years old, according to constitution, the age that Ma Yun had reached to be able to retire.
And in Ma Yun this second " emeritus " before the hearsay, the money in A signs up for what the VIE framework that go out discloses in the file to adjust, also had made preparation for it it seems that.
The 2018 money that released on July 27 this year sign up for year after year (20-F file) in, a Lixiang was narrated want didymous VIE framework to undertake adjustment perfecting to 2019, adjustment core content commands force to reduce the individual of Ma Yun and die brilliant, change by Alibaba partnership support of the people is in charge of high people collective control, the purpose is to be avoid " crucial person risk " .
Now nowadays, in A most the company substance of core business is to clean out cat of treasure, day, A Liyun, Alibaba respectively (China) cruel of bird of technology, dish, actor. These companies are registered to be in through VIE framework graceful and British the control of 5 VIE company of the the Virgin Islands, and Ma Yun and die brilliant controlled 4 in 5 companies.
Show according to afore-mentioned file data, the equity of every VIE substance will be had by a China be restricted liability company control, and rather than by minority individual hold. And company of this China finite liability will be controlled by two partnership business, every partnership business each hold 50% equity, partnership business make choice of Alibaba the administrative layer of a certain number of members and Chinese citizen identity regards partnership business as LP.
Join Ma Yun's emeritus recently talk, once such VIE structure in A tears open solution to finish, cut down Ma Yun with respect to what covert the control force to Alibaba, also meet weaken Ma Yun accordingly to leave to the influence in A.
So to Ma Yun, can say completely to retreat retreat.
Watch Beijing instead east, it is picture additionally one.
According to media coverage, beijing has article of a special blazing in the constitution east, prohibit namely the board of directors is in Liu Jiang east not attendant when make the decision that has sanction, if do not have Liu attendant, or unless he himself is evasive, the board of directors must not hold formal meeting.
The clause makes clear a regulation even, liu Jiang east in " any restriction that violate its apiration " during still can retain power, this makes clear him to be able to maintain the control to the company to counterpoise in the jail even.
Liu Jiang east have capital at present east the share of about 16% , but he has the company voting right of nearly 80% .
Company of Hong Kong Asia administers association (Asian Corporate Governance Association) secretary-general Jamie Allen says with respect to the comment to this, "Beijing east in the company processing structure in the Asia, relatively extreme. Relatively extreme..
Allen expresses, beijing east have 5 director only, include 3 independent director, Liu Jiang among them east accuse with Tecent president Liu Chi is smooth; And of a model appear on the market company board of directors, normally can 8 arrive 12 trustee. He thinks, the board of directors with a less number, the likelihood lacks diversity on thinking and major.
In CCTV " dialog " in the program, liu Jiang Dongceng says: "If incontrollable this enterprise, I aux would rather sell it. " visible, the Liu Jiang that shows a person with working arrogant image east, want to put authority to not allow really easy.
To Ma Yun, resign 6 years ago when CEO post, had made preparation to retire it seems that, the Alibaba of market prise of 420 billion dollar is in nowadays feel just like a fish in water of Zhang Yong that leads next development, this enough makes him satisfactory. And to Liu Jiang east for, lack helper, face formidable challenge of the competitor again, "Emeritus " it is short-term inside the goal that achieves hard.
Nevertheless, the successor Beijing to electric business domain east, no matter from department age, in light of system capacity and preparative work, follow at present different level lies in A, far not as good as in A; Strong to be in the Liu of prime of life east for, if do not have the scandal of the near future, retire to also not be the problem of extremely urgent.
